NYT Hearts Obama

We begin with Mr. Frank Rich with The All-White Elephant in the Room. In form with wit and reason, Rich doesn't attempt to prohibit asking the "Wright" questions, but wonders why we aren't asking the "Hagee" questions. All of this, of course, wrapped in a delicious reminder that, yes, race is still an issue in America.

Oh, the double standard:

None of this is to say that two wacky white preachers make a Wright right. It is entirely fair for any voter to weigh Mr. Obama's long relationship with his pastor in assessing his fitness for office. It is also fair to weigh Mr. Obama's judgment in handling this personal and political crisis as it has repeatedly boiled over. But whatever that verdict, it is disingenuous to pretend that there isn't a double standard operating here. If we're to judge black candidates on their most controversial associates -- and how quickly, sternly and completely they disown them -- we must judge white politicians by the same yardstick.

Emphasis mine

It's a good read, don't miss it.

Second, Friedman (yes, gosh darn it, Friedman), asks "Who Will Tell the People?. "Tell them what?" you may ask. Tell them that our bullshit everything: foreign policy, political establishment, demeanor, participation... all of it, it sucks! We're falling behind, fast. He compares our airports and train stations to those overseas and wonders who exactly won World War II. Then he declares (listen, please, Senator Clinton):

I don't know if Barack Obama can lead that, but the notion that the idealism he has inspired in so many young people doesn't matter is dead wrong. "Of course, hope alone is not enough," says Tim Shriver, chairman of Special Olympics, "but it's not trivial. It's not trivial to inspire people to want to get up and do something with someone else."

And he finishes strong:

It is especially not trivial now, because millions of Americans are dying to be enlisted -- enlisted to fix education, enlisted to research renewable energy, enlisted to repair our infrastructure, enlisted to help others. Look at the kids lining up to join Teach for America. They want our country to matter again. They want it to be about building wealth and dignity -- big profits and big purposes. When we just do one, we are less than the sum of our parts. When we do both, said Shriver, "no one can touch us."

The lizardbox wonders if this inspiring awakening was caused by the green-pie incident.

Third, there's the woman I love to hate and hate to love: Maureen Dowd. In her micro-brewed piece, she starts and ends with Obama and his attempts to connect with... white voters. But the meat of this literary sandwich talks Clinton and Obama. Obama from humble beginnings now laboring for the return. Clinton, woman of the people? Not so much.

I hear many Clinton supporters repeat this line that Dowd attributes to Karl Rove and his Republican pack:

Karl Rove and other Republicans say he comes across as the snooty product of a Hawaiian prep school, Cambridge, Columbia and Hyde Park...

Well, of course he is, this Obama. What I rarely hear though is what kind of childhood and upbringing Senator Clinton had. Must be nice when your father pays for the house in cash.

You can argue this all you want, but this line from Obama's closing argument in Indiana and North Carolina rings true with Barack more than any other candidate:

Politics didn't lead me to working people. Working people led me to politics."

In his early twenties, he went to Chicago to become an organizer for $11k a year. Of course many would suggest that this was just another stop on his way to this run for the presidency since it is widely known that he plotted this path in kindergarten.

Last but not least, there's the editorial on Missing Records, from Senators Clinton and McCain that is. Missing are the McCain health records. Missing are McCain's tax returns prior to 2005.

As for Senator Clinton:

The public is still owed a more complete accounting of the sources and amounts of Mr. Clinton's speaking fees and business income. Still missing, too, is a complete list of the major donors who have been supporting the Clinton presidential library and foundation.

So, after the diversions of Wright, Ayers, flag-pins, and bitterness, on any given Sunday, may be this Sunday, we can talk about some issues that matter. May be we can talk about transparency. May be we can talk about serving the people and not pandering to them. May be talk about being honest with ourselves, and how we need inspiration, to challenge the good citizens of this country to regain our standing in the world. May be have a serious discussion about race outside the boundaries of the electoral process. May be...

Vote Hope 08



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Re: NYT Hearts Obama (none / 0)

i was about to rec'd until i saw you couldnt resist the last part to bash.

yep - hope 08!


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Sun May 04, 2008 at 02:56:54 AM EST

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I don't believe I bashed.


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by lizardbox on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:13:37 AM EST
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The change our country needs is based on hypocrisy, playing race cards, doing character assasination. That is what Hope and Change means for many followers.


by Sandeep on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:17:07 AM EST
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It's really unfortunate you think that.


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:23:07 AM EST
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Agreed one shouldnt think like that. It is unfortunate that some people act like that.


by Sandeep on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:39:51 AM EST
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It is unfortunate some people act like that, I agree with you.

However, you are painting "many" people with a very broad stroke here.

I, for one, have refrained from personally attaking anyone--including Hillary.  However, every time I open my mouth in something modestly representing a dissenting opinion, I am either jumped on or personally attacked.  I could say "many" Hillary supporters are [insert insult here], but I don't, because I know they aren't.  What I do know is, there are a few Hillary supporters here who like to attack people for no real good reason, just as there are Obama supporters.

If the personal attacks on both sides would stop--that would be really great.


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:47:18 AM EST
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That's not what they mean to me. That's not what they mean to my friends and family who support Obama. You might in passing post a couple of comments here and there charging that these sentiments are all false. But you cannot tell me what Obama's brand of "Hope and Change" means to me and those around me.


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by lizardbox on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:25:23 AM EST
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I am not saying your sentiments are false and I am not saying what it should mean to you. I have no rights to tell you that. I am saying how it comes across. An inspiring person never bashes another person but lifts.

Your diary was very good and positive, till you included your bashing by association at the end.


by Sandeep on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:38:23 AM EST
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which part exactly?


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by lizardbox on Sun May 04, 2008 at 03:40:57 AM EST

And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 2)

I should also say that I thought your diary was rather fair-minded.  I can see how some of it could be interpreted as a "bash" on Hillary, but I would disagree.


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:00:22 AM EST

Re: And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 1)

I hit Senator Clinton on a couple of issues:

1) Inspiration: she often repeated the line that "Obama has a speech". Now if that isn't an insult of the highest order, I don't know what is. This country needs to be inspired, and she keeps on telling us that it's not going to happen. I take issue with that.

2) Clinton, woman of the people? Not so much: A reference to some examples Dowd provided about how Clinton's connection to the middle class is a newly found thing.

3) Clinton's father paid cash for their house: I'm not making this up, she said it in one of her Senate speeches. Besides, accusing Obama of elitism was pure bullshit, and that's why I brought up that point.

4) Clinton speaking engagements (including fees) and donations to Clinton library disclosures.

I still don't see where the bashing took place.


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by lizardbox on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:07:13 AM EST
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Re: And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 2)

I agree with you on a lot of points.

Do I think she is a "woman of the people?"  Well, I do think she has done some great things for people.  Also, I think her campaign has done a great job of making her appear as a woman of the people.

Whether her father paid cash for his house or not is of little consequence to me, really.  The charges of elitism, I agree, are pure bullshit.  I think both Clinton and Obama have been very fortunate.  As a woman myself, I can understand any "trials and tribulations" that come with one's "inferior" gender, but I really do not believe her upbringing even compares with Obama's.

And yes, I would like to see some records from the Clinton Library.  I was appalled when Bill suggested Dubai be in charge of our ports, and not to get all "conspiracy theory" on anyone, but I wouldn't be surprised if that might have something to do with the Library.

Like I said, I didn't see it as bashing, but seeing as it wasn't a "positive" reflection on Hillary, I can see how it would be perceived that way.


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:20:27 AM EST
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Re: And since I totally hijacked your diary... (2.00 / 2)

Yes, we do seem to agree on a lot of points (all, I think)

I know she's done great things for many people, which is what makes the latest pander on gas taxes even more confusing, the "obliterate" Iran comment disturbing, and the discounting of the states she lost very unfortunate.


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by lizardbox on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:25:18 AM EST
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I would agree with you on all of those points as well.  As I've said many times before, it is not really Hillary who turns me off, per se, but the people who run her campaign.

I have a lot of respect for her, and she's been a role model of mine for years.  People can argue campaign tactics with me all they want, but I truly believe those in her employ are doing her a great disservice.


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sun May 04, 2008 at 04:40:48 AM EST
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Yeah, the NYT hearts Obama so much it endorsed the Senator From Wherever I Happen to be Campaigning Today.


by realcountrymusic on Sun May 04, 2008 at 07:39:31 AM EST

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Interesting diary, though I don't agree with the premise that the NYT "hearts" Obama. Perhaps the opinion writers do (for the time being, at least), but the news department? Not so much.
I read an excellent photo/commentary blog called "BAGnews Notes" (http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/)
that commented on the news stories featured this week in the NYT:

Wright Remains a Concern for Some Democrats (Thursday NYT)
After Break With Ex-Pastor, Obama Tries to Move On (Thursday NYT)
Primary Loss and Furor Over Ex-Pastor Hurt Obama in Poll (Thursday NYT)
A Strained Wright-Obama Bond Finally Snaps (Thursday NYT)
While Clinton Focuses, Obama Is Distracted (Thursday NYT)
Obama Breaks Forcefully With Ex-Pastor Over Fiery Remarks
(Print Headline: an angry obama renounces ties to his ex-pastor) ( Wed NYT)
Mr. Obama and Rev. Wright (Wed NYT)
Praying and Preying (Wed NYT)
Clinton Tweaks Obama on Wright (Wed NYT)
The TV Watch: Not Speaking for Obama, Pastor Speaks for Himself, at Length (Tues NYT)
Blogtalk: The Wright-Obama Drama (Tues - NYT)
Obama Says He's Outraged by Ex-Pastor's Comments (Tues - NYT)
Obama Adds to Distance From Pastor (Tues NYT)
The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Speaks for Himself (Tues NYT)
The Pastor Casts a Shadow (Tues NYT)
Obamas Wright Response (Tues NYT)
Dribbling Past Reverend Wright (Tues NYT)
Former Pastor of Obama Says He Isn't Divisive (Mon NYT)
Obama Addresses Ex-Pastor's Media Blitz (Mon NYT)
Wright Defends Church and Blasts Media (Mon NYT)
McCain Criticizes Remarks by Obama's Former Pastor (Mon NYT)
The Early Word: McCain Takes Up Wright Issue (Mon NYT)

http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/ 2008/04/obama-on-trial.html

If you haven't checked out this blog before, I highly recommend it.


"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC
by skohayes on Sun May 04, 2008 at 08:36:08 AM EST

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So we've got NYT race-baiting and quotes from a MoDo piece?  Hmm..


by bobbank on Sun May 04, 2008 at 09:38:30 AM EST

Freidman as usual (2.00 / 1)

disassociates himself from the consequences of globalization for which he has been the main cheerleader.  But the last paragraphs ring true, that people do want to get to work to get this country working on things that will improve our quality of life.  Can any president start the process of unhooking our tax dollars from the military spending which sucks the life out our society?  I don't know, but I know who is most likely to do so, and he comes at a good time.


by ReillyDiefenbach on Sun May 04, 2008 at 10:56:42 AM EST


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